@warmth of love

janab ab main ne kuch kaha to aap impose ka bahana kar ke mujhe block kar deN ge. khair, look at ur references, they are 90% from bible, i am Muslim alhamdulillah and talking about quran. u gave me a proof to think that this is a christian belief, that jesus did not die coz u r going to show me this from bible. bible ke references de kar kya saabit kiya janab ne?

"inna lillah e wa inna ilaihe raje oon" We belong to Allah, and to Him we will turn back." iss qurani fiqrah me bhi yehi likha hai ke harr kissi ne Allah ke paas hi jana hai, aur Allah is not just in heaven.

a christian may believe this, that jesus did not die and that he is still alive, u gave references for this.

mere saath quran aur hadees ki baat kijiye janab. yeh kya hai jo copy and paste kiya?

to ur ayat from quran

For surely they killed him not; but Allaah took him up unto Himself;
[4:159] On the contrary, Allah exalted him to Himself. And Allah is Mighty, Wise.

now u see the translations. Allah is not only in heavens. HE is all over. So tell me, where is ANhazrat Mohammad (saws)? Is he not to to Allah? Sabb ne Allah ke paas hi to jana hai. "Inna lillah e wa inna ilaihe raje oon"

and this is not imposing from my side. u are imposing me. har dafa ajeeb o ghareeb se references de diya, jabb kuch kehta hun to block kar dete haiN aap mujhe. ajeeb rawaj hai yeh.





All of my postings on JB are just my opinions, not that of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. For official Opinion of tha AMJ please look for there official Website, which is mentioned in Advertisment-Forum of JB just ONCE. Or ask me for the Oficial Website. I will tell u. Is this OK, Miss Kash_beauty?

haha ajeeb sa sawal hai,

equal islam me kya kissi duniya ke culture me nahi hai, sabb ko maloom hai ke different haiN. equal would mean, ke mard aurat hai aur aurat mard.

and about rights, i would say, ke idher bhi yehi hai, ke according to the definition women have the equal rights, but not the same rights like men. this is the only difference. and u will find this difference all over the world. there are all over the world, in every culture some rights, which only women can have, no man can claim them, too. e.g. can a man claim the same rights as a pregnant woman by just saying i have equal rights? or how many women striked to take part in olympics with men in competition?

there are equal rights for women in islam, but not the same. i would like to say, that a woman has more rights in islam than a man. i wished i could change. well i am talking about islam, not about traditions of jahalat.

kaartoos is a bullet. aik goli ke ander buhat si choti choti goliyan hoti hain. u can kill lot of birds with one shot. sometimes more than 50. after the shot, har koi dorr raha hota hai ke birds ko pakarr ke zibah kar sake but most of the birds are dead before a man reaches them but they are still not haram. assal me barri barri batoN ka lihaaz nahi rakha jata iss liye ab chotti chotti si baton par behas kar ke samjha jata hai ke deen yehi hai aur islam kuch aur nahi hai.


references for other matter about halah and haram from ehl-e-kitaab and others: I give here just references from sihaa sittah, (all ahadees of imaam muata are narrated also in saheehain, too). these are just comprehensions, for details see the original references.

1. bukhari: kitaab u tauheed:
Hazrat Aisha(raa) narrated, that some companions asked Anhazrat: “some new muslms bring us meat and we don’t know, whether the name of Allah is pronounced on it or not and whether they have slaughtered the meat”. Anhazrat Mohamma (saws) said, “you should pronounce the name of Allah on it and eat it surely.”

2. imam muata, kitab u zakat:
some companions asked the prophet (saws), “some ppl from the village bring us meat and we dont know, whether they have pronounced the name of Allah on it or not, what should we do?.”
Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) said, “pronounce the name of Allah on it and eat it.”

3. masnad Ahmad and abu daud (kitabul at’ima)
in a war cheese was brought to the prophet (saws). he asked, “where was it made?”. companions said “in Persia (Persians were not ehl-e-kitaab even) and we think that they mixed haram things in this chees.”
Anhazrat Mohammad (saws),” don’t be such curious, cut and eat it”

4. in one hadees (masnad Ahmad) companions said, “we even heard that the persians used murdaar for preparing this cheese.” Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) said the same as mentioned before.

5.Bukhari, kitabus said wadhabaaH
here i give just a comprehension. aNhazrat Mohammad (saws) said, “if u left ur dog with the name of Allah for chasing (shikaar) and this dog has kept the animal although the animal died, u may eat his meat.“

so here an animal dies before it is slaughtered. just the name of Allah is enough. no slaughtereing, no zabeeha and so on.

Allah hidayet de. ameen.

so u think that Allah is static? i think imposter is the wrong word.
"HE is in defferent states" must not mean that HE is changing himself. it could also mean that the person who is in contact with HIM is always seeing the new sides of HIM, so HE appears to change himself. like the sun. it changes itself everyday. its different in the morning and in the evening and in the noon. but actually its the earth who is changing itself more. well sun is changing itself, too. just a sample.

@badal
u might be right, i have read the verses. the translations, too. and tafaseer, too. the fact is that in every translation u see the words, which underline ur opinion. but they are in brakets (?).

like (at the time of slaughtering). that means for me clearly, that u are using one interpretation. others dont use it. so what. in my opinion the name of Allah could be said everytime. and mr. badal i didnt tell that Allahs name shouldnt be pronounced.

every halal meat is not zabeeha
but every zabeeha is halal. ur confusion is, coz u are going to set zabeeha equal to halal. kabhi kartoos ki goli se shikaar kiya hai aap ne?

hehe freud ki itni be-izzati?

he was the founder of a complete new science psycho-analysis and based on his books there are a lot of others, too. he didnt admit anything. he described UR reactions and the backgrounds of them. hahah who is dirty now?

hmmm nice and serious question acutaully,

well islam claims to be a religion of nature. homosexuallity is something unnatural although this argument is now very old. but its still unnatural yaar. and there is no evidence, that this is a natural instinct.

@badal
yaar badal sahib itni bhi na chorra karo. i cant helo u, if u dont understand the context and religios books. ooper jo aap ne ajeeb si interpretations ki hain unn ka jawab to sara quran me likha hua hai.

well aap se behas karna ka mujhe koi shauq nahi, kioN ke iss muamle me aap ko maiN apni raaye de chuka hun kay aap ko sabb kuch samjha sakta hun, pehle aik massla clear karo.

is hazrat isa (as) dead or not? and other questions i mentioned before.

and now i ask u kindly, just give me ur five most powerfull arguments against Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. and i will try to talk about them. coz otherwise we will loose us in the propaganda-war, which u are making against Ahmadiyyat here. thanks for ur patience.


@bazigaar
chadd yaar, rehn de.

Please read this note about my opinion

according to islam, i dont care about casts within muslims.

this is really nonsense.

in such a situation of clash, i even would not do, what my parents want me to do. sach kehne ya karne se agar kissi ka dil tootte, to tootte. and it doesnt matter, ke ammi abbu ka hai dil yeh nazuk sa ya kissi aur ka.

One who can mix the experience of old with energy of young, flourishes longer and enjoys the fruits of it.
mashallah, fully agreed with this Smooth D


Note about my this opinion

SALL said:

raja gidh and bahao r good

wot is al tabri and chaahe badal ???

chah-e-babul or babal means babylonia ka kuNwaN, jiss me according to ajeeb si stories do farishte ulte taange hue hain. nauzubillah.

and al-tabri is a book about islamic history, written by allama tabri.

and besides all of these lectures, i still prefer to read quran and think about it with MY OWN MIND and not with the mind of OTHERS. kaisa?

magar inn sabb baton ke bawajood.

kuch ajeeb si harkaat ho rahi hain iss forum me. kuch jinn-type-hazraat, jo nazar nahi aate, woh chupke se forum me aate hain aur aakar mere postings ko edit kar jaate hain.

mujhe iss forum par bhoot paret ka saya lagta hai, admins ko kahen to woh rules dikha dete hain, mods ko kahen to woh ungli dikha dete hain, hamsaaye ko kahen to woh aina dikha deta hai.

lagta hai, shor machana parrega, "bhago bhago, bhoot aaya"

@to admins
somebody edited(or censored) my posting in serious topics. hmmmmmm

"chaahe haiN, so aap kare haiN, hamm ko abass bad-naam kiya"

taaaliyaaN

ufff ab aap logoN ne itne scientific saboot de diye hain ke abhi tak hansi nahi ruk rahi.

koi kehta hai mujza hai, koi kehta hai, kuch utarnay ka zikar hai, koi kehta hai ke aqal se kaam lo. wah wah, ab to waqi kuch kehne ko nahi reh jata.

references bhi mile to woh ke "khaddi da gawah daddu". hahaha

aik baat poochi thi bass. ab pata chall gya ke level kya hai.

@heart_hacker
yaar aap woh kuch utarne ki baat kar rahe the. mujhe nahi mila yaar. aap hi kuch karo ab. likh do idher, just copy and paste. dil ko sakoon mill jayega. wassalam

Note about my this opinion

i heard always ke ANhazrat(saws) said, as mentioned over,
ke kissi ka dil na dukhao, kionke ansoo tumhare liye saza bann jaayenge. (although i never found a hadis about this, so i dont know the right words for this saying)

but i think that if said, then in another concept of saying. kissi ka dil zulm kar ke na dukhao.

kioNke agar sach bol kar ya koi acha kaam kar ke kissi ka dil dukha rahe ho to doesnt matter. iss tarah to Anhazrat (saws) ne khud itne kuffar-e-makka ka dil dukhaya yeh keh kar ke Allah aik hai aur baaqi saare khuda jhoote hain.

Note about my own opinion

al-tabri

chaahe-e-babal (the greatest novel i ever read) well i read just three novels.

rajah gidh, bahao and chaah-e-babal

na mumkin ko mumkin me badal deti hai
ai mere falsafio, zor-e-dua dekho to.

well there are some acceptions, where prayers cant help anybody. e.g. physically dead body ist dead.

but on the other hand u can change almostly everything by praying, especially soul could be changed.

i met a german muslim, who was a crack person before he accepted islam. he was a drug taker. now he is a scholar of islam and very namazi parhezi banda. heart ka to Allah ko pata hai,magar bazahir he is a good insan. but due to taking a lot of drugs in his "zamana-e-jahiliyyat", he cant rid of these drugs, otherwise he will die. so he had changed his soul, but the consequences of his dealings on his body, he cant. so he got a fatwa about his situation that he is allowed to take drugs as a medical instrument.

if somebody doesnt accept ur help, then pray that he might accept help of anybody, who is best for him.

Note about my own opinion

Quran ki baaton par khud amal nahi karna aur jabb iss tarah ka kuch hojaaye to itna jazbaati hone ki kya zaroorat hai phir?

Quran ya Islam aisi harkatoN se thorra hi khatam ho jayenge.

Religious freedom, jiss ki quran me guarantee hai har mazhab ke liye, woh kiss islami mulak me hai? siraf western countries ne religious freedom dee hui hai. siraf baaten nahi karni chahiye.

NOTE: This is just my opinion, not that of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. There are some ppl, they think, everything i say, they could use it against Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. This ist the official Website of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. Aayi samajh?

shahrukh khan

so you believe? any islamic prooves? koi hadis, koi ayet, or just
credo, quod absurdum?

ji main hun khaaksaar. mazloom sa insan. its me Aziz Bahawalpoori. Bass pyaar se Djeedja Lotta kehte hain log.

it was aquestion.

what do u believe about this paoN ka nishan? and why? any hadith? something else? any islamic proove? or just wehmi baat?

Bazigaar said:

shahrukh khan said:

ahemedis r not good ppl

rite

@kash_beauty

kash_beauty said:

I will not allow racial or religious discrimination advertised here!

what do u call discrimintation, if not that quoted from hero SRK, he is a MOD. shame. siraf khali baateN hi haiN kya? itni nafrat kioN bhari hui hai tum me? woh bhi siraf ghalat baaton ki wajah se.



NOTE: This is just my opinion, not that of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. There are some ppl, they think, everything i say, they could use it against Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. This ist the official Website of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat. Aayi samajh?

i have still 4.

hamari aqal to poori ki poori hamare paas hi hai abhi.

@black&white

yaar kabhi koi kaam ki baat bhi kiya karo, khali ghussa na kiya karo, kabhi koi daleel do, kabhi koi hawala bhi do.

and u are damn right, if u say ke ahmadiyyat qayamat ki nishaniyoN me se aik barri nishani hai. really u r right. iss tarah ke massih maud ne qayamat ke waqt ke aas paas hi ana hai, so we believe ke aa chuke hain and thats why there ist ahmadiyya muslim jamaat.

and to all other is there nothing to say. cool down, yaar. jo sawal poocha hai uss ka jawab do agar dena hai

black&white said:

yaar app ko apna mta hee yaad ataa hai she iz talking abt ptv not mta ok

nahi yaar, itna ghussa na karo.

SALL said:

wot abt other channels ??

muhtarrma ne other channels ka poocha, hamm ne bata diya. hukam ke ghulaam hai. dekh hi lena ab to aap bhi MTA. shayed aap ki black and white dunia me thorra sa colour aa jaaye.

salam arz hai

BadShaH1 said:

Well one thing for sure, haram is not good for u, scientifically haram things react negatively with u and ur enviornment, and it destroys u, while halal things scientifically react in accordance with ur system makeing u able to spend life with ease!


u seen the HALAL HARAM theory in "RAJA GIDH" of bano qudsia??

hahha besides my opinion ke haram achi cheez nahi haur aur buhat nuqsan wali bat hai, but the way u are saying ke scientifically there are some dusturbances, i am not agreed with this. prove it. where it is written. any researches (well bano qudsia hahaha a scientist?).

bano qudsias theory is(as i understood) that haram is interferring with ur genes. that means that ur next generations must be affected because of ur haram, too. the children are in this case free of being gulity becuase there parents earnt haram and so they affected the children. if in this case, the children do the same, coz they cant do anything else, coz they are affected on genetically basis, then why blame them. iss tarah to koi bhi aakar keh sakta hai ke main haram kha and kama raha hun, kionke mere Amman Abba ne yeh kaam kar ke mere genes change kar diye hain. its funny, dont u think?

and its not a theory in the scientific way. its not even a hypothesis. its so called, "buhat lambi lambi chori hai, muhtarma bano qudsia sahiba ne".

i know this channel
MTA Muslim Television Ahmadiyya

24 hours islam ki hi baaten hoti hain. jabb dil kare dekh lijiye. shayed aur bhi ilm me izafa ho aur ALlah sehat bakhshe. amin

djeedja lotta said:

shahrukh khan said:

ahmedia MOHAMMED (PBUH) KO NAHI MAANTE
ahmedies are not good ppl

in ki apni masjid hoti hai wagheira wagheira

oh come on shahrukh khan. Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) ke liye buhat ghairat hai hamare liye aur unn ko the best prophet and the best man ever mante hain, unn ki gustakhi to tum karte ho ke aik taraf to kaha ke Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) Allah ke buhat pyare nabi the aur doosri taraaf yeh yaqeen ke Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) to nahi magar Hazrat Isa (as) ko Allah ne asman par bithaya hua hai, jabb ke hamara nabi dafan hai zameen me. gustakhi to yeh hui. nauzubillah

aur janab masjid to pakistan me sabb ki hi apni apni hai. hamari taraf se kam az kam yeh pabandi nahi ke koi sunni ya shia hamari masjid me namaz nahi parrh sakta, hamari masjid me to isaai bhi apni ibadat kar sakte haiN, jaisay ke Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) ke zamane me isai wufood akar apni ibadat musalmanon ki masjid me karte the. pabandi to hamm par hai. yeh ajeeb hi baat ki hai janab ne.

aur ache bure hone ka faisla to khair Allah hi kare ga. aap ki kon manta hai. wassalam

shahrukh khan said:

ahmedia MOHAMMED (PBUH) KO NAHI MAANTE
ahmedies are not good ppl

in ki apni masjid hoti hai wagheira wagheira

oh come on shahrukh khan. Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) ke liye buhat ghairat hai hamare liye aur unn ko the best prophet and the best man ever mante hain, unn ki gustakhi to tum karte ho ke aik taraf to kaha ke Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) Allah ke buhat pyare nabi the aur doosri taraaf yeh yaqeen ke Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) to nahi magar Hazrat Isa (as) ko Allah ne asman par bithaya hua hai, jabb ke hamara nabi dafan hai zameen me. gustakhi to yeh hui.

aur janab masjid to pakistan me sabb ki hi apni apni hai. hamari taraf se kam az kam yeh pabandi nahi ke koi sunni ya shia hamari masjid me namaz nahi parrh sakta, hamari masjid me to isaai bhi apni ibadat kar sakte haiN, jaisay ke Anhazrat Mohammad (saws) ke zamane me isai wufood akar apni ibadat musalmanon ki masjid me karte the. pabandi to hamm par hai. yeh ajeeb hi baat ki hai janab ne.

aur ache bure hone ka faisla to khair Allah hi kare ga. aap ki kon manta hai. wassalam

SALL said:

pehle beshak thora bohot shak ho par ab aap k paki n muslim hone pe shak nahi raha
mubarik ho
btw,,
i admit one thing,, those who call themselvs ahmedis, woh kitne ache insan ya muslim hein yeh me nahi janti,,,, par unn k paas wakai bohot knowledge hoti hai,, no doubt

kya aap bhi yehi samajhti hai ke religion thread aur serious forum me koi mazaq na kiya jaaye. khair. main to kiya karunga without meaning somethings realy serious, like i told, that its femals.

to knowledge ki hi baate le leN hamm se. baqaul, Anhazrat (saws) ilm to jahan se mile, hasil kar lena chahiye, mo'min ki hi khoi hui cheez hoti hai, so hamm to issi par amal karte hain. wasslam

Smooth_daddy said:

If we can't do anything, we can pray to God for their well being. but, we are busy watching indian movies at night and enjoying ourselves.

dekhna taqreer ki lazzat ke jo uss ne kaha
maiN ne yeh jana ke goya yeh bhi mere dil maiN hai. Ghalib

dil ki baat ki hai.

@sall

aap baat ko jitna marzi ghuma len. baat itni hai, ke aap yaqeen karen ya na karen yeh to aap ka apna muamla hai, main ne jo cross questioning ki hai uss ka jawab to den. yeh kya keh har baar topic se hi hili hui baat kar deni, nayi nayi baat nikaal lani magar purani baat ko close nahi karna. its not fair. its female hahaha

@badal

to quranic verse:
aap ne jo interpretation ki hai woh to ulti aap par jarahi hai. that means, ke hazaron lakhon christians and jews are already dead wothout believing on him. what does it mean? matlab to yeh nikla ke Quran me nau zubillah aik baat likhi hai jo ghalat hai?

of course our interpretation is different and it happened already.
to other both ahadis:
yes it happened.

but besides all of this, pehle just tell me the same, what bazigar undermarked, how do u believe that hazrat isa (as), is not dead like all other human beings, while our beloved and the best prophet Mohammad (saws) is dead and burried in the earth? yeh to samjha dijiye pehle. islam is not a qissa kahani, as some made out of it.